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well good evening and welcome back to

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the johnson space center as we hit the

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top of the stretch in discovery's flight

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to the international space station and

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our mission status briefing for this

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evening to wrap things up with us to

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talk about entry and landing

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preparations as the entry flight

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director richard jones richard

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rob thank you very much well it's a

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pleasure to be here and thank you very

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much for having me as you all know the

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sts-128 mission is coming here to a

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close very shortly and the ground team

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and the on-orbit crew is preparing to

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bring discovery home

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tomorrow and as you've been hearing each

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day

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from the flight directors and the

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mission uh management team members who

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have been briefing you here each day

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there's been nothing but superlatives

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that you can attribute to this to this

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and i'm here to really tell you more of

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the same

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all we've had is is really

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really good news

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the crew is doing great and the ground

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team's ready so

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just want to kind of go through some

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things to help set up the entry strategy

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for tomorrow

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but first i want to kind of start off

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with some of the things that happened

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today we had a really good

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fcs checkout flight control system

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checkout and hot fire we hot fired all

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of the primary jets that we could

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possibly use tomorrow and everything

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checked out very clean

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during the fcs checkout during the first

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portion of that when we're running the

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auxiliary power unit and we do some

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secondary actuator checks that really

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shake the vehicle up we we did lose a

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piece

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debris the crew did capture that in a

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and they sent that down to the ground we

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were able to take a look at those shots

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and we weren't able to come to a

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definitive conclusion as far as what

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that object was

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but we definitively came to the

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conclusion that it is not a thermal

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protection system

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or a piece of the thermal protection

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system so really from that perspective

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we're in a very good configuration

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we got more good news as the day

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progressed today the the damage

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assessment team or the dat team they

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were able to give us

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great news from the standpoint that

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their late inspection results

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they had finished those up today they

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had done a very thorough job of

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analyzing the data as they always do

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and they looked at the wing leading edge

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and the nose cap systems

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all of that is is clean there are no

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liens against

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the tps so the vehicle is is ready to

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come home

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from a consumables perspective we have a

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lot of consumables on board in fact we

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have the amount of consumables that can

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take us out through sunday and the

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mission plus three

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and so hopefully we won't have to use

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all of those but

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i guess benefiting from that capability

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from the standpoint that if we need to

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use them we can

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so let me kind of talk through the

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weather scenario that we've got lined up

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the weather

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tomorrow as

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the following few days at kennedy space

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center is going to be challenging

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the just like

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any time period

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heating effects are kind of boiling up

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the atmosphere a little bit

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we can expect some rain or some

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thunderstorms within the area hopefully

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those thunderstorms are going to be

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staying away outside of a 30 nautical

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mile flight rule circle that we have to

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keep them out of

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we had a great chance to look at the

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weather today as it was streaming in the

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and you can kind of see some lines of

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convergence or streams of of

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thunderstorms as they were kind of

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coming into the area but as they were

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you could definitely see some areas of

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of dryness or some clearing hopefully

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that same condition will be there

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it's going to be a little bit iffy in

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terms of whether that dryness will be

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there or not but if it is

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that could work in our favor

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on the other side of the the continental

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united states edwards uh is going to

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have great weather from basically from

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here on out through into mission plus

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three that's not a good that is likely

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not to be a concern for us

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but weather is weather you have to look

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at it every day and you have to study it

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and make sure that your assumptions are

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still the same that's what we're going

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and we're going to kind of factor

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everything together

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but with the end of mission plus three

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consumables that uh at our disposal

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and uh the fact that uh we've got two

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ksc opportunities tomorrow and the great

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edwards weather uh that's all we're

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gonna look at tomorrow is we're only

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gonna look at ksc for our end of mission

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and maybe it's a good time that we can

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go ahead and show you those ground

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here's our first opportunity it's on

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orbit 202 the burn is at 459 central

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approximately at 6 05 pm central this

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first opportunity is uh is in daylight

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the crew will actually

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have good daylight conditions and

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they will beat sunset for this

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particular opportunity by 30 minutes so

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we won't have to rely on the xenon

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lights to provide a good

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a good environmental view out the out

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the window for the crew for this

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particular landing and if we can go to

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the next opportunity

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this is rev 203

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uh it's uh it's the orbit burn is

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occurring at 6 36 pm central with a

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landing approximately at 7 42 pm central

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and as you can see it's traversing

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right over the the houston area here and

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coming across the united states heading

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into kennedy space center so those are

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opportunity that last opportunity on

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it's approximately one hour past sunset

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normally weather is such that you know

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things start to calm down from a weather

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perspective that may not happen tomorrow

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we'll we'll see if that is the case

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but that may be something that could

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work in our favor if you remove the the

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daytime heating aspects of things

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the weather tends to settle down a

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little bit so we'll hopefully we'll be

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looking at a lot of things to go in our

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you know with two ksc opportunities

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in front of us tomorrow we're going to

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be looking at the weather if we don't

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come in tomorrow and our pickum day

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will most likely be on endomission plus

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that is the initial thought process that

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we're going to be going into

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tomorrow's landing with uh but we're

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gonna reassess that and see if there's

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any conditions that would possibly

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change that to move it up a day possibly

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to end the mission plus one

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again there's a lot of factors that we

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have to look at but that could be a

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scenario

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that could happen the folks the landing

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convoy support folks the facility folks

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out at edwards are ready to support that

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if if indeed we need to call them up

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but again i'd like to stress we would

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go out as far as possible

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looking at ksc if that is what is

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required and we could possibly go to

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if that is the case before calling up

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edwards

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for those

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for a landing opportunity on end mission

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you heard a great briefing from the

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boundary layer transition team members

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earlier right now i can't even do that

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justice they did a great job of getting

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you up to speed on that we are ready to

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support that dto

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and finally i just want to close with

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one other item

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as we're coming into our deorbit prep

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preparations tomorrow the entry team as

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as we're getting ready to get into the

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deorbit prep checklist

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excuse me the

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the htv

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launch is scheduled for 1201

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p.m central so we'll uh we'll know how

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that mission is coming along and i know

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the iss community is is very excited

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about that uh that new capability so

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from an entry perspective what we're

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worrying about is relative motion

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concerns making sure that we don't have

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any conjunction capabilities with

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respect to that htv we've taken a look

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at that and there are none at all

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obviously the sooner that we can get out

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of orbit and get back safely on the

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that just frees up more assets for the

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htv and the iss to use from a

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perspective so really that's my summary

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hopefully i've been able to answer most

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of your questions but i'd be happy to

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take them now

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if you have any

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thanks richard and the japanese flight

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control team gave the green light a few

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hours ago to fuel the h2b rocket and to

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roll it to the pad rollout is just a few

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hours from now in advance of the

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anticipated launch tomorrow we'll start

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off here with gina gina sincere abc news

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have you had the crew do any kind of

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power downs uh to to

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extend what they have or it's not

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necessary at all you know the uh

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the power downs that we would be putting

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in place we could

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do a more severe power down a a group c

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but we don't think we'd have to do that

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we would have to put a standard group b

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power down in place to make sure that we

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have an emission plus three capability

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our limiting consumable is is lithium

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hydroxide and we've got quite a bit of

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cryogenic margin on top of that and

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really when you do that that power down

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it's to save the cryogenic margin uh and

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or make sure that it's still there so uh

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we would have to put in a a minor power

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it's really not our top concern

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robert robert parolin with

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collectspace.com um i think there was a

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call earlier when uh when

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rick stirkout was being briefed about

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the weather that there was a mention of

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a crosswinds dto and can you just remind

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us what that is sure

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the

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if

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we do get the opportunity to come home

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tomorrow to ksc the crosswinds are

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forecasted to be i believe 11 knots

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and we have a standard dto that's on the

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books that we've been carrying for years

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to try and characterize the handling

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qualities

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in the two-point stance when the vehicle

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first touches down

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and so as a result of that

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if those conditions are present and if

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the crosswinds are 10 knots or greater

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and when when i say 10 knots or greater

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obviously they're going to have to be

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inside of of 15 knots for end emissions

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so if they're inside of that range at

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least for the first opportunity under

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the daylight conditions

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we would delay the deployment of the

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drag chute until the nose gear is on the

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ground that way we can get a full up

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assessment of the handling qualities of

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the vehicle under those high cross wind

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conditions

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for the later opportunity

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that that window of opportunity kind of

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constricts for the dark opportunity we

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can only sustain a 12 knot crosswind

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which is still within limits but the

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chances of having something like that

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maybe diminish in a little diminish a

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little bit just from the standpoint as

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when the sun goes down the the winds

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tend to die down a little bit as well so

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that's really what we're looking at

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tomorrow

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okay we have reporters on the phone

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bridge let's start off with bill harwood

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yeah thanks uh richard too for me if i

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could did did christopher indicate any

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idea of

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the the rough vicinity of where that

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debris came from i mean upper orbiter or

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aft any ideas at all yeah you know

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bill he characterized becoming it coming

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from the uh he couldn't really

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characterize it if it was coming from

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the payload bay or the orbiter itself he

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was uh he was unsure of where the

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original destination but it was it was

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definitely aft and i believe it was on

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the port side of the vehicle so

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that was how he described that you know

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when a small object comes out like that

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it's first of all it's very difficult to

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even characterize the size of that

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debris and he gave us three to four

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inches in length

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i did take a look at the pictures and it

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it is looking about that size if you

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were to kind of uh stare at it for a

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little bit but uh you know from its

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origination point uh just aft and port

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of the vehicle uh whether or not it was

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from the payload bay or not uh that that

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distinction wasn't made

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thanks and one more for me on the on how

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the pickum day works if

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you're only calling up ksc for tomorrow

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obviously and if the weather stays the

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same my presumption from what you said

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is you would only try ksc on friday and

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then saturday would be the day you got

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to land somewhere is that interpreting

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that correctly that is a correct

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interpretation if

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if the weather out at edwards continues

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to look as good as it does

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it continues to be our ace in the hole

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that it that would be the conditions

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where you'd continue to look at ksc as

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long as you could

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thank you very much that's it for me

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thank you very much uh tariq malik from

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baseball.com and space news i think i

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have two quick ones as well um which you

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mentioned earlier um

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that uh you are going to target saturday

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for your for your pick and day but

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depending on conditions you could move

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up for friday and i guess the following

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bill's question

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i guess independent of edward would

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would uh i guess a bleak forecast at

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kennedy also

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also on

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on um

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saturday affect anything or in terms of

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moving up to friday or would you just

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kind of stick to that could be a

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condition uh tarik that could possibly

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get us to think about intermission plus

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uh

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one as being our pick em day but

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again i would consider that a little bit

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remote but you're thinking along the

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right lines uh something like that could

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uh could enter the thought process for

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that

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thanks and if you can just i guess

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remind us um just the the desirability

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of returning an orbiter back to casey

404
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rather than uh landing in floor in

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california

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just kind of

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you know why that is always your your

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preference for the first couple goats

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thanks

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uh yeah obviously kennedy space center

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is the highest priority from a

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programmatic and a flight roll

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perspective any time that you want to

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get the vehicle back home to

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its uh it's it's home

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that's the best way that you can

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possibly get things obviously the next

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mission sts-131 uh is uh is eagerly

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awaiting discovery so that's another

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reason to help the turnaround obviously

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the turnaround manifest and suing from

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that so there's a lot of good reasons

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that you want to make sure that you get

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into ksc

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but

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you know if the weather doesn't

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cooperate we'll go for we'll go to the

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thank you

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okay on to irene clauds

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thanks rob um sorry if you already said

431
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this but do you have an idea of what the

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weather concerns for tomorrow

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specifically are going to be

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yes irene the the weather concerns

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all of the the ceilings and the the the

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winds the surface winds

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are within flight rule limits the the

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main concern is going to be the the

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chance of thunderstorms within a 30

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nautical mile boundary

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that surrounds the shuttle landing

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facility

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as you as i

444
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was describing a little bit earlier the

445
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thunderstorms that were streaming into

446
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the area today

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they were behaving

448
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pretty much like you expect them as

449
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they're coming out off of off of the

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atlantic onto land

451
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that is that is probably going to be one

452
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of the the signatures or the

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characteristics or the mechanisms that

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is going to be affecting

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the weather tomorrow as well

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i failed to mention one thing i'll just

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add another thing a lot of the activity

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is

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if it's going to be there it's going to

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be coming up from the south

461
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that was the same

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activity

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we expect that same trend to be there

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tomorrow and hopefully it'll stay to the

465
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south

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thanks and uh would you just refresh my

467
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memory if there's some fight rules about

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um

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not having lightning within a certain

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period of time or for a certain period

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of time

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before you make a call for the orbit

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burn like there is for launching

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there's a it's a similar

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flight rule that that encompasses

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lightning obviously a thunderstorm

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any time that you have a thunderstorm

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it can have lightning it cannot

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there are definitions in terms of what a

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thunderstorm is the cloud top

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temperatures

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are the real uh i guess definition of

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what a thunderstorm is from a flight

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roll perspective if the cloud top

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temperatures at the at the at the top in

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terms of wherever that that thunderstorm

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bubbles up to

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if it is colder than minus 20 degrees

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celsius then it kind of meets the

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characteristics

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or it meets the conditions where you

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would call it a thunderstorm it may not

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have lightning in it it is likely to

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have thunder or precipitation in it but

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really that's the main discriminator

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that causes you to call something a

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thunderstorm if it does have lightning

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it's still a thunderstorm from our

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perspective so really

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it doesn't mean too much other than you

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know the presence of lightning is uh

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it's an active thunderstorm and you

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really don't want to get anywhere close

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to that

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thanks that's interesting thank you

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bye-bye okay and uh last but not least

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thank you rob um

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just regarding these thunderstorms

509
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obviously you're you're hoping

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to catch a break but i just wondered if

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you could any further characterize your

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confidence level at this point i mean

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does it look

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like it'll take a great stroke of luck

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or or is it kind of 50 50 or worse or

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better

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you know i think i wanted but

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uh james i hate to put a number on

519
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things uh i wouldn't characterize it as

520
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a stroke of luck um i i would like to

521
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just stick with the description of it

522
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being very challenging

523
00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:45,440
you know i've had a chance to to stare

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at weather

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working as a weather flight director and

526
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uh as a ascent and entry flight director

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on other missions and

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you know weather is weather and you have

529
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to kind of watch it and make sure that

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it's it's behaving in the manner that

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you you want it to

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uh and tomorrow

533
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uh you know since it is going to be a

534
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challenging case

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what i really mean by that is

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it's going to

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somewhat

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go in the early portions of the orbit

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prep it we're going to be looking for

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maybe a trend where it's dissipating as

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we get closer to the deorbit burn

542
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:28,720
looking for that area of dryness that i

543
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was trying to communicate earlier so

544
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i just want to stick with the

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i think we heard that the outlook was

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worse on friday

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and so i'm not sure if i

548
00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:46,160
uh understood how that impacts your

549
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decision to call up edwards friday or

550
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now are you would you be

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already looking towards saturday at that

552
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point and just

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just go through another day

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you know as uh

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i tend to think about

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00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:03,760
a launch that we recently had i was

557
00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:05,520
working with my colleague norm knight i

558
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was his weather flight director for uh

559
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for a previous launch and we walked in

560
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that day

561
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and the weather forecast was 80 percent

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no go

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and we lifted off that day

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and

565
00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:23,600
that is the reasoning where why you have

566
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:26,960
to kind of stare at things look at them

567
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:29,120
and kind of take things with a grain of

568
00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:31,440
salt i'm not saying that

569
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,080
the fork the forecast the forecasting

570
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:36,559
job is is extremely

571
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:39,280
difficult but when they're forecasting

572
00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:40,960
when the weather forecasts are looking

573
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,159
at at a particular area

574
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,080
it's very hard to drill down to the

575
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:48,559
microscopic level and it isn't

576
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:51,039
microscopic but a smaller scale level of

577
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:53,440
a 30 nautical mile circle

578
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:56,640
around a particular landing site

579
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:57,600
and

580
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:00,320
you know make a forecast for a specific

581
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,720
time frame where weather is going to be

582
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,960
there or not going to be there it may

583
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:06,960
look terrible all around it but it might

584
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:09,760
be perfect within that 30 nautical mile

585
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:10,640
circle

586
00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:13,440
those are the circumstances where

587
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:15,919
even though the forecaster is is

588
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:17,600
forecasting that there's going to be a

589
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:20,480
lot of moisture a lot of

590
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:23,039
their term precipitable water in the

591
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,320
atmosphere that uh could migrate from

592
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:28,720
the south up to the north uh yes from

593
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,280
that perspective the outlook for the

594
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:34,080
further the further days outside of of

595
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,120
uh of thursday for friday and saturday

596
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,120
do have that propensity for a little bit

597
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:41,520
more precipitable water in them

598
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,760
uh but again it you got to look at it

599
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:45,360
and make sure that

600
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:46,240
it

601
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,400
so

602
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,400
again i'd i take things with a grain of

603
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:54,720
salt any any time that

604
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:57,360
i see some numbers or some probabilities

605
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,159
associated with weather

606
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:01,919
okay thanks uh just a couple more

607
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:02,960
questions

608
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:04,159
do you have

609
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:05,280
is it two

610
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,440
landing opportunities each day and

611
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,960
if you've called up

612
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,559
edwards did you have

613
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:14,320
do you generally have to just pick one

614
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:16,159
for those two one site for those two or

615
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,559
can you try one first and then the other

616
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,200
well uh the the orbit opportunities line

617
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:23,600
up differently each day um

618
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,039
in particular uh for end of mission

619
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:30,000
there's two ksc opportunities followed

620
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,159
separately by edwards opportunities

621
00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:34,320
after that that's really the typical

622
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,120
setup sometimes there's an overlap

623
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:39,360
between the second kennedy space center

624
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,919
and the first edwards opportunity

625
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:43,919
i don't think that shows up until i

626
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:46,960
believe end to mission plus two so

627
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:49,679
uh under those circumstances uh we could

628
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,320
look at foreign mission plus two if we

629
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:55,200
get there on saturday we could possibly

630
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:58,400
look at a at a kennedy space center

631
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:01,039
a landing opportunity and if that isn't

632
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:03,840
cooperating the next deorbit opportunity

633
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:05,760
after that we could choose either

634
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,360
between an edwards or a ksc opportunity

635
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:11,200
but if we go that far we're obviously

636
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,559
going to be looking at edwards a lot

637
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,720
harder

638
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,480
right okay and last i just wondered if

639
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,799
you could describe a little bit when you

640
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,799
talk about calling up edwards exactly

641
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:22,559
what that actually entails in terms of

642
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:25,039
as i understand a certain amount of

643
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,880
manpower has to uh get positioned to

644
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:30,640
be ready to receive the

645
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:33,840
shuttle when it lands that's that's uh

646
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,159
that's a part of it we do have a lot of

647
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,000
people that deploy from the landing and

648
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,679
recovery division out at the kennedy

649
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,760
space center out to

650
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,679
the different conus landing sites when

651
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,679
they go out to edwards they're pretty

652
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:47,919
much already there so they know how to

653
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:49,520
handle the vehicle

654
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,279
just like they do when it's back at home

655
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:53,360
and they're the experts in on how to do

656
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:54,480
that

657
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:58,960
basically gets ready makes a check out

658
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:01,279
of all the convoy

659
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:03,440
instruments and vehicles that are used

660
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:06,880
to process the vehicle after it touches

661
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,120
touches down and hits wheel stop at the

662
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,799
end of the runway

663
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,880
towing it off the the vehicle getting it

664
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:14,880
ready for the ferry flight obviously is

665
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,520
the next part of that that convoy

666
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:19,919
the second part of the equation is

667
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:21,919
you know securing the runway itself

668
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,120
obviously edwards is a runway that we

669
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:26,799
share with

670
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:29,760
the with the air force and so uh that is

671
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,799
the second part of it when we actually

672
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:34,480
say you know what we're going to be

673
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,120
we're asking the air force to give the

674
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:38,960
the runway to us and we secure the

675
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:41,360
amount of time around that appropriately

676
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,640
so that we can get the convoy staged and

677
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:46,799
shut off the air force operations so

678
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,200
that we could possibly use the uh

679
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,360
the runway if necessary so really that's

680
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:53,840
that's kind of a high level just of this

681
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:55,760
high level description of what we do

682
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:02,310
okay i believe that's it on the phone

683
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:03,840
bridge i don't think we have any

684
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,640
follow-ups here so we'll uh wrap up with

685
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:08,159
a couple of programming notes uh

686
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,840
discovery's crew will begin its

687
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,600
eight-hour sleep period at two a.m

688
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,679
central time on thursday

689
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,360
that's the same time that we'll start

690
00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:17,279
our flight day highlights

691
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:19,039
an hourly replay of the highlights of

692
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:20,799
today's final full day in orbit we

693
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:22,960
believe for discovery's crew

694
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:26,000
the crew gets its wake-up call at 9 59

695
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,000
a.m central time on thursday to begin

696
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:30,240
deorbit landing preparations and as

697
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:32,480
richard alluded to at the beginning the

698
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:35,200
japanese htv launch the maiden launch of

699
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,400
that new cargo ship for the

700
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:38,159
international space station is on tap

701
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,640
for thursday our launch coverage on nasa

702
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:43,440
television begins at 11 45 am central

703
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:47,120
time for expected liftoff at 1201 pm

704
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:50,960
central time 201 am japan time on friday

705
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,520
september 11th you can follow all the

706
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:55,520
activities of the space shuttle and the

707
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:57,440
space station and this mission in

708
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,360
particular on our website at

709
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:02,240
www.nasa.gov